Agile - User Story Definitions [closed]

Question

I'm writing a small app for my friend's business, and thought I'd take the opportunity to brush up on some Agile Project Management training I did at the start of the year.

I (and I think, my current organisation!) have always struggled with gathering requirements in the form of User Stories, which take the form:

As a [User Type] I want [feature] so that [some benefit]

I'm always tempted to miss out the beginning and end, and just leave the feature - but this then just becomes requirements gathering the old way!

But I don't want to just make it fit, so that I can say 'I'm doing Agile'.... for example, if I know that the user is to be presented with a list of items, then the reason is self-evident, is it not?

e.g.

As a [Store Manager] I want [to see a list of Stock Items] so that ... ?

Is it normal practice to leave out the [so that] clause?

Vanitavanity

Answer 1

We used to miss it out as well. And by leaving it out we missed a lot. To understand the feature properly and not just do the thing right but DO THE RIGHT THING it is key to know WHY the feature, and for that the next key is WHO (the role) In DDD terms, stakeholder. Stakeholders can be different, everyone who cares. From programmers and db admins to all the types of users.

So, first understand, who is the stakeholder, then you know 50% of WHY he cares, then the benefit, and then it is already almost obviously WHAT to implement.

Try to not just write "as a user". Specify. "as store manager", or even "as the lead of the shift responsible for closing the day", i need....so that....

Maybe you can implement something different which will give the same stakeholder even better benefit!!!

Phototopography

Answer 2

Try, To Achieve [Business Value] As [User] I need [Feature].

The goal is to focus on the value the feature delivers. It helps you think in vertical slices, which reduces pure "technical tasks" that aren't visible. It's not an easy transition, but when you start thinking vertically you start really being able to reduce the waste in your process.

Another way is to thinking of the acceptance tests that your customer could write to ensure the feature would work. It's a short jump to then using something like FitNesse to automated those tests.

Scornful

It has to be said, since I've started to TRY and use this approach, it really does make you stop and think about a system. For me, software is now almost about what it DOESN'T let you do (i.e. break the process), as what it does. – Vanitavanity

Answer 3

No, it's actually not obvious - there are a lot of reasons to want to see a list, a lot of things you might want to with it - scan it for some info, get an overview, print it, copy and paste it into a word document etc. And what exactly it is will give you valuable hints on reasonable implementation details - formatting of the list, exact content; or even a hint that a different feature might be a better idea to satisfy that need. Don't be surprised to find out that the reason actually is "so that I can count the number of entries"...

Of course, this might in fact not apply to you. My actual point in fact is that there are reasons that people came up with this template - and there are also reasons that a lot of experienced people don't actually use it. And when you are new to the practice, you are not in a good position to assess all the pros and cons of following a practice, so I'd highly recommend to simply try to follow it closely for some time. You might be surprised by the usefulness of it - or not, in which case you still learned something and can drop it with a clear concise... :)

Girder

Answer 4

User Stories is another way of saying you need to interview your users to find out what they want and what problems they are trying to solve. That the heart of having this in agile development. If the form is not working for your then take a step back and try a different approach that feels more natural to you or better suited to your capabilities as a writer.

In short don't feel like you have to be in a straight jacket. The important thing is that you follow the spirit of the methodology.

In this specific case you want to get a list of what problems the user has, why they are problems, and what they think will help them.

Uppercase

Answer 5

I think you should really try to get a reason defined, even if it may seem obvious. If you can't come up with a reason then why build the feature in the first place? Also the reason may point out other deficiencies in the design that could trigger improvements in other areas.

Arand

Answer 6

I often categorize my stories by the user/persona that it primarily relates to, thus I don't put the user's identity in the story title. My stories also are bigger than some agile methodologies suggest. Usually, I start with a title. I use it for planning purposes. Once I get close to actually working on that story, I flesh it out with some details -- basic idea, constraints, assumptions, related stories -- so that I capture more of the information that I know about it. I also keep my stories in a wiki, not on note cards. I understand the trade-off -- i.e., I may spend too much time on details before I need them, but I am able to capture and share it with, typically, off-site customers easily.

The bottom line for me is that Agile is a philosophy, rather than a specification. There are particular implementations that may (strongly) suggest that you do things a certain way and may be non-negotiable on some items. For example, it's hard to say you're doing XP if you don't pair program. In general, though, I would say that most agilists would say that you ought to do those things that work for you, in the way that they work for you -- as long as they are consistent with the general principles, you can still call yourself agile. The general principles would include things like release early/release often, unit testing, short iterations, acknowledge that change will happen, delay detailed planning until you are ready to implement, ...

Bottom line for me: if the stories work for you without the user and rationale -- as long as you understand who the user is and why they want something -- do it however you want. Just don't require a complete specification before you start implementing.

Befitting