What's the shebang/hashbang (#!) in Facebook and new Twitter URLs for?
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I've just noticed that the long, convoluted Facebook URLs that we're used to now look like this:

http://www.facebook.com/example.profile#!/pages/Another-Page/123456789012345

As far as I can recall, earlier this year it was just a normal URL-fragment-like string (starting with #), without the exclamation mark. But now it's a shebang or hashbang (#!), which I've previously only seen in shell scripts and Perl scripts.

The new Twitter URLs now also feature the #! symbols. A Twitter profile URL, for example, now looks like this:

http://twitter.com/#!/BoltClock

Does #! now play some special role in URLs, like for a certain Ajax framework or something since the new Facebook and Twitter interfaces are now largely Ajaxified?
Would using this in my URLs benefit my Web application in any way?

Retractile answered 9/6, 2010 at 19:49 Comment(6)
Hmm. Had to look up what shebang was... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%29Sunderland
Which is why I'm puzzled as to what it's doing in a Facebook URL.Retractile
FWIW, it's not just shell and perl scripts, but any script run on a unix like system. The #! line tells the shell what the interpreter for that script is... of course, my comment has nothing to do with facebook or twitterLiteralminded
Thanks, Hacker News! (leaving as a comment so I don't bump my question, don't see the need to)Retractile
The hashbang is glorified for all the wrong reasons, it breaks best practices and destroys the chance for progressive enhancement and graceful degradation. Please use the other solutions out there.Coir
Note that per october 2015 Google deprecated the hashbang they introduced in 2009! So for new applications you no longer should have to do this for SEO. Right now there's only a subtle remark in white at the top of Google's spec pages: "This recommendation is officially deprecated as of October 2015."Dull
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This technique is now deprecated.

This used to tell Google how to index the page.

https://developers.google.com/webmasters/ajax-crawling/

This technique has mostly been supplanted by the ability to use the JavaScript History API that was introduced alongside HTML5. For a URL like www.example.com/ajax.html#!key=value, Google will check the URL www.example.com/ajax.html?_escaped_fragment_=key=value to fetch a non-AJAX version of the contents.

Gaudreau answered 9/6, 2010 at 20:7 Comment(11)
Ah, not sure how I missed that; looks like it's been around for quite a bit. Thanks!Retractile
Are you sure that is all there is to it? I often find that the page loading hangs on a shebang URL on facebook (even after many reloads), but if you manually remove the #!, it works. Not to mention you often get "1.5 URLs" (i.e. the old URL remains, and just has the new part added to it (i.e. photo.php?id=... twice, but with different ids). Not to mention that "#!" is also added to facebook-mail URLs, which probably aren't (and shouldn't be) indexable. In any case I find the shebang extremely annoying since it seems to be the reason for so many page faults on my slow home line.Erb
That Facebook has bugs doesn't make those bugs the fault of two characters in the URL. If the site is coded properly to understand and generate them, crawlable AJAX URLs are quite handy. Lots of other things on Facebook glitch out, too.Gaudreau
@Pedery: I have only ever seen that issue with Facebook. I agree, it drives me up the (non-Facebook) wall all the time.Retractile
The old URL often remains because Facebook handles the initial request at that URL (i.e. a photo), but subsequent navigation is handled on that same page via AJAX. So, you might be viewing a profile on a page with the URL of photo.php, but that's becuase you clicked around.Gaudreau
As for search engines, having an indexable AJAX URL doesn't make the page get indexed anymore than having an indexable non AJAX URL does. Facebook uses this URL format for more than just Google's benefit - it also makes pages accessed via AJAX on Facebook bookmarkable when they otherwise wouldn't be.Gaudreau
Escaped fragments are a great idea, (see mambopics.com) but until at least Bing (and Facebook - forum.developers.facebook.net/viewtopic.php?id=63698) implements it, I think there will be lower adoption since everyone will have to do some sort of dual URL system; a hash-bang url for Google and another one for Bing (and others).For
For some interesting caveats, also read this article: isolani.co.uk/blog/javascript/BreakingTheWebWithHashBangsLatticed
The hashbang is glorified for all the wrong reasons, it breaks best practices and destroys the chance for progressive enhancement and graceful degradation. Please use the other solutions out there.Coir
As the top + accepted answer, I think it would be worthwhile to update it with something more than just a link.Crescent
As of October 14, 2015, Google has deprecated the technique: googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2015/10/…Bereave
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The octothorpe/number-sign/hashmark has a special significance in an URL, it normally identifies the name of a section of a document. The precise term is that the text following the hash is the anchor portion of an URL. If you use Wikipedia, you will see that most pages have a table of contents and you can jump to sections within the document with an anchor, such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing#Early_computers_and_the_Turing_test

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing identifies the page and Early_computers_and_the_Turing_test is the anchor. The reason that Facebook and other Javascript-driven applications (like my own Wood & Stones) use anchors is that they want to make pages bookmarkable (as suggested by a comment on that answer) or support the back button without reloading the entire page from the server.

In order to support bookmarking and the back button, you need to change the URL. However, if you change the page portion (with something like window.location = 'http://raganwald.com';) to a different URL or without specifying an anchor, the browser will load the entire page from the URL. Try this in Firebug or Safari's Javascript console. Load http://minimal-github.gilesb.com/raganwald. Now in the Javascript console, type:

window.location = 'http://minimal-github.gilesb.com/raganwald';

You will see the page refresh from the server. Now type:

window.location = 'http://minimal-github.gilesb.com/raganwald#try_this';

Aha! No page refresh! Type:

window.location = 'http://minimal-github.gilesb.com/raganwald#and_this';

Still no refresh. Use the back button to see that these URLs are in the browser history. The browser notices that we are on the same page but just changing the anchor, so it doesn't reload. Thanks to this behaviour, we can have a single Javascript application that appears to the browser to be on one 'page' but to have many bookmarkable sections that respect the back button. The application must change the anchor when a user enters different 'states', and likewise if a user uses the back button or a bookmark or a link to load the application with an anchor included, the application must restore the appropriate state.

So there you have it: Anchors provide Javascript programmers with a mechanism for making bookmarkable, indexable, and back-button-friendly applications. This technique has a name: It is a Single Page Interface.

p.s. There is a fourth benefit to this technique: Loading page content through AJAX and then injecting it into the current DOM can be much faster than loading a new page. In addition to the speed increase, further tricks like loading certain portions in the background can be performed under the programmer's control.

p.p.s. Given all of that, the 'bang' or exclamation mark is a further hint to Google's web crawler that the exact same page can be loaded from the server at a slightly different URL. See Ajax Crawling. Another technique is to make each link point to a server-accessible URL and then use unobtrusive Javascript to change it into an SPI with an anchor.

Here's the key link again: The Single Page Interface Manifesto

Glendon answered 16/10, 2010 at 22:30 Comment(10)
"However an application without this optimization is still crawlable if the web crawler wishes to index it." Not really. The hash doesn't get sent to the server.Intisar
just for information: self.document.location.hash provides the value of this hashArterio
The hash doesn't get sent to the server. Good catch!Glendon
The hash getting sent to the server is sadly client independent. Granted google may not currently send the hash to the server, and I'd be surprised if it did, but some things ( and some clients ) may send the # part anyway. ( Just like some web-clients will resolve the "../../" part of urls client-side, and others will ship them to the webserver as-is )Atropine
and even though the hash may not be sent to the server, that doesn't stop google from indexing it. If it sees <a href="foobar#tag">baz</a> , it might associate "baz" with "foobar" and only follow the "foobar" part, but there's still no reason it cant record the "#tag" <-> "baz" association, or present that data in published links and search results. It may make assumptions that "foobar" and "foobar#tag" are equivalent, ie: not index the true content of "foobar#tag", but it doesn't stop it being usefulAtropine
This entire answer aside from the single-paragraph "pps" is redundant.Guaiacum
@TomalakGeret'kal I don't think so, I think for someone who wants to know how and why (including me), its a perfectly crafted answer. Your comment adds no value to this answer as well.Gluey
@imaginonic: I'm late, but as perfectly crafted as it is, 90% of it doesn't touch on the #! aspect of my question at all. That's why he said it's redundant. The number of upvotes here is likely due to the high traffic when my question made it to Hacker News coupled with the sheer length alone of this answer.Retractile
To be precise, the entity that the # in the URL references is an HTML tag's ID attribute. The name ID refers to the fact that ID's are unique, meaning there is (supposed to) only be one tag with that ID on the entire website, so a URL with a hashbang (#!some_page) is as unique as a URL without a hashbang.Suspension
You basically just explain what the anchor tags for URL are for.Saiva
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First of all: I'm the author of the The Single Page Interface Manifesto cited by raganwald

As raganwald has explained very well, the most important aspect of the Single Page Interface (SPI) approach used in FaceBook and Twitter is the use of hash # in URLs

The character ! is added only for Google purposes, this notation is a Google "standard" for crawling web sites intensive on AJAX (in the extreme Single Page Interface web sites). When Google's crawler finds an URL with #! it knows that an alternative conventional URL exists providing the same page "state" but in this case on load time.

In spite of #! combination is very interesting for SEO, is only supported by Google (as far I know), with some JavaScript tricks you can build SPI web sites SEO compatible for any web crawler (Yahoo, Bing...).

The SPI Manifesto and demos do not use Google's format of ! in hashes, this notation could be easily added and SPI crawling could be even easier (UPDATE: now ! notation is used and remains compatible with other search engines).

Take a look to this tutorial, is an example of a simple ItsNat SPI site but you can pick some ideas for other frameworks, this example is SEO compatible for any web crawler.

The hard problem is to generate any (or selected) "AJAX page state" as plain HTML for SEO, in ItsNat is very easy and automatic, the same site is in the same time SPI or page based for SEO (or when JavaScript is disabled for accessibility). With other web frameworks you can ever follow the double site approach, one site is SPI based and another page based for SEO, for instance Twitter uses this "double site" technique.

Nemertean answered 17/10, 2010 at 9:4 Comment(1)
What about progressive enhancement principle? Website shouldn't crash of fail due to disabled JavaScript. And trust me, javascript is disabled not just in outdated browsers but also by many security aware users who do not like executing random JS.Materialize
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I would be very careful if you are considering adopting this hashbang convention.

Once you hashbang, you can’t go back. This is probably the stickiest issue. Ben’s post put forward the point that when pushState is more widely adopted then we can leave hashbangs behind and return to traditional URLs. Well, fact is, you can’t. Earlier I stated that URLs are forever, they get indexed and archived and generally kept around. To add to that, cool URLs don’t change. We don’t want to disconnect ourselves from all the valuable links to our content. If you’ve implemented hashbang URLs at any point then want to change them without breaking links the only way you can do it is by running some JavaScript on the root document of your domain. Forever. It’s in no way temporary, you are stuck with it.

You really want to use pushState instead of hashbangs, because making your URLs ugly and possibly broken -- forever -- is a colossal and permanent downside to hashbangs.

Epiphany answered 24/2, 2012 at 21:34 Comment(2)
I think your criticism of hashbangs is valid, but using just pushState as a substitute means that we would lose the ability to load content within a single page app based on the URL. So then URLs can't be shared.Husha
I had a similar issue in my work - we've taken to using Page.js (which uses pushState) for single-page navigation, where previously we used Hasher and Crossroads (hash-bashed). As a result, we needed to rescue paths like /blah#foo/feep/baz?stuff=nonsense. The new path equivalent would be /blah/foo/feep/baz?stuff=nonsense (note # replaced by /). I did that simply by having a route in my setup that caught /blahand checked if it had a has, if so, appending that hash's content after a slash. Rescued.Rugby
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To have a good follow-up about all this, Twitter - one of the pioneers of hashbang URL's and single-page-interface - admitted that the hashbang system was slow in the long run and that they have actually started reversing the decision and returning to old-school links.

Article about this is here.

Budgie answered 31/5, 2012 at 9:51 Comment(0)
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I always assumed the ! just indicated that the hash fragment that followed corresponded to a URL, with ! taking the place of the site root or domain. It could be anything, in theory, but it seems the Google AJAX Crawling API likes it this way.

The hash, of course, just indicates that no real page reload is occurring, so yes, it’s for AJAX purposes. Edit: Raganwald does a lovely job explaining this in more detail.

Fictionalize answered 16/10, 2010 at 22:31 Comment(0)

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