Eclipse plugin management in IBM RAD

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I installed RAD 7.5 and found out that IBM is not as good as I thought of it. RAD thing has it's own "install manager" which doesn't seem to resolve any dependencies. Does anyone know how to enable standart eclipse's software installer and/or Eclipse Marketplace?

Austroasiatic answered 27/8, 2012 at 16:10 Comment(1)

I checked eclipse 3.4 and figured out that was misled by installer's looks. ChrisGerken was right, it was native installer. I haven't found acceptable solution. But that's another question's topic. – Austroasiatic 31/8, 2012 at 9:57

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You should be able to enable "classic install" in the preferences and then use the traditional installer to bring in 3rd party features. Even so, you'll still need to use IBM's installation manager to apply fixes, upgrades and new components from IBM/Rational.

Gala answered 27/8, 2012 at 19:10 Comment(3)

Well, if you know exactly how to do it, describe please. – Austroasiatic 27/8, 2012 at 19:29

Sorry, from your wording I thought you were more familiar with Eclipse. For RSA 7.5, go to the preferences page and expand General --> Capabilities. In the list of capabilities, look for "Classic Update" and enable it by clicking on the checkbox. Click on OK to close the preferences dialog. From then on, you can go to Help --> Software Updates to install from traditional update sites. You just add the site to the list by clicking "Add Site..." and then "Install..." once you've chosen the features you want. – Gala 27/8, 2012 at 19:52

First: i'm familliar with eclipse quite well, but not with RAD. In this particular matter they are different. Second: you wrote how to turn on "IBM's classic installer", which was in RAD 7.0 and then was replaced by new one in 7.5. I thought i've clearly specified that i'm intrested in native Eclipse's install manager and Marketplace. – Austroasiatic 28/8, 2012 at 6:51

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This is how you add Marketplace client plugin to RAD 7.x/8.x:

Help / Install New Software
Point to Eclipse Helios Site http://download.eclipse.org/releases/helios in "Available Software Sites"
Select the correct release (for RAD 8.0 is Helios)
Type "Marketplace" in filter text control
Check "General Purpose Tools / Marketplace Client"
After install restart RAD

You now should see Eclipse Marketplace in Help menu.

Hint: this is the same procedure as in Eclipse Classic.

Scummy answered 22/8, 2013 at 13:56 Comment(2)

Thank you for your response. Unfortunately I don't work with RAD anymore, so I can't check your answer. Maybe someone else will find your answer useful. Best regards! – Austroasiatic 28/8, 2013 at 8:20

@AleksandrKravets I work with RAD, and have been searching everywhere for a solution. I can confirm that this works 100%, and is exactly what I've been looking for. – Squarerigger 21/12, 2015 at 16:26

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You should be able to enable "classic install" in the preferences and then use the traditional installer to bring in 3rd party features. Even so, you'll still need to use IBM's installation manager to apply fixes, upgrades and new components from IBM/Rational.

Gala answered 27/8, 2012 at 19:10 Comment(3)

Well, if you know exactly how to do it, describe please. – Austroasiatic 27/8, 2012 at 19:29

Sorry, from your wording I thought you were more familiar with Eclipse. For RSA 7.5, go to the preferences page and expand General --> Capabilities. In the list of capabilities, look for "Classic Update" and enable it by clicking on the checkbox. Click on OK to close the preferences dialog. From then on, you can go to Help --> Software Updates to install from traditional update sites. You just add the site to the list by clicking "Add Site..." and then "Install..." once you've chosen the features you want. – Gala 27/8, 2012 at 19:52

First: i'm familliar with eclipse quite well, but not with RAD. In this particular matter they are different. Second: you wrote how to turn on "IBM's classic installer", which was in RAD 7.0 and then was replaced by new one in 7.5. I thought i've clearly specified that i'm intrested in native Eclipse's install manager and Marketplace. – Austroasiatic 28/8, 2012 at 6:51

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For RAD,Version 9.0.0:

Try to install using the

http://download.eclipse.org/releases/kepler/

Select "General Purpose Tools / Marketplace Client"

Then "Next - Finish"

Oyer answered 29/10, 2014 at 18:25 Comment(0)

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I use IBM's Rational Developer for Power Systems (which shares parentage with RAD, I think) and all the normal Eclipse plug-in & feature install options, as well as the Marketplace, are available.

You might have a corrupt install.

Might also be worth a call to IBM to see if they help identify why the options aren't available for you.

Monofilament answered 29/8, 2012 at 20:50 Comment(5)

If you are talking about version 7.5, then could you share a screenshot of help menu? My install is not corrupt. It's just fact that RAD 7.5 is based on Eclipse 3.4 and most of plugins i need require 3.6 or later. – Austroasiatic 29/8, 2012 at 21:22

Well that's your problem, then. Move to RAD 8. – Gala 29/8, 2012 at 21:45

Well, since plug-in's are often tied very tightly to the version of Eclipse they are based on, I don't think you're going to be able to upgrade the Eclipse version from 3.4 to 3.6. I just checked my RDP 7.5 help menu and it does have "Software Updates" on it ... launch that menu option and the 2nd tab, Available Software, on that software updates and add-ons dialog gives you the ability to install plug-in's. If you need Eclipse 3.6 plug-in's, I concur with @chris-gerken, upgrade to RAD 8.0 (RDp 8.0 is also based on Eclipse 3.6). – Monofilament 30/8, 2012 at 13:25

FWIW: A screen shot of the RDp 7.5 help menu can be found here: urlq.us/5-, and the software update dialog can be found here: urlq.us/60 – Monofilament 30/8, 2012 at 14:14

@ChrisGerken: you are not constructive. I use tools bought by company. Are you suggesting me to waste my own money to buy RAD 8? – Austroasiatic 31/8, 2012 at 9:26

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