Prove that this language is undecidable
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Is the following language L undecidable?

L = {M | M is a Turing machine description and there exists an input x of length k such that M halts after at most k steps}

I think it is but I couldn't prove it. I tried to think of a reduction from the halting problem.

Acrimonious answered 10/7, 2011 at 13:39 Comment(4)
k is a fixed constant here, right?Dkl
no. If k is fixed then it is decidable I thinkAcrimonious
Forgive me if this is a naive approach, but-- if I want to know whether a machine X halts (without input), can I enclose it in another machine Y which will ignore input? That is, if you run Y with any input, Y will just run X, perhaps with a fixed number of steps of overhead? If so then X halts iff Y is a member of L, so L is undecidable. Is this a workable approach? Or must Y erase the input or something?Seedman
You can do that. Or Y can run on X if its input is X and loop otherwise. the problem here is that X is unknown.Acrimonious
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Review: An instance of the halting problem asks whether Turning machine N halts on input y. The problem is known to be undecidable (but semidecidable).

Your language L is indeed undecidable. This can be shown by reducing the halting problem to L:

  1. For the halting problem instance (N, y), create a new machine M for the L problem.
  2. On input x, M simulates (N, y) for length(x) steps.
  3. If the simulation halted within that number of steps, then M halts. Otherwise, M deliberately goes into an infinite loop.

This reduction is valid because:

  • If (N, y) does halt eventually in k steps, then M will halt for all inputs of length k or greater, thus M is in L.
  • Otherwise (N, y) does not halt, then M will not halt for any input string no matter how long it is, thus M is not in L.

Finally, the halting problem is undecidable, therefore L is undecidable.

Canonicals answered 13/7, 2011 at 14:25 Comment(0)

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