What's the difference between revert and generalize tactics in Coq?

Question

From the Coq reference manual (8.5p1), my impression is that revert is the inverse of intro, but so is generalize to a certain extent. For example, revert and generalize dependent below seem to be the same.

Goal forall x y: nat, 1 + x = 2 + y -> 1 + x + 5 = 7 + y.
intros x y. revert x y.
intros x y. generalize dependent y. generalize dependent x. 

Is it just that generalize is more powerful than revert?

Also, the documentation is a bit circular in explaining things about generalize:

This tactic applies to any goal. It generalizes the conclusion with respect to some term.

Is generalize similar to the abstraction operator in lambda calculus?

Broad

Answer 1

Yes, generalize is more powerful. You've demonstrated it has at least the same power as revert by simulating revert with generalize. Notice that generalize works on any terms, revert -- only on identifiers.

For example, revert cannot do the example from the manual:

  x, y : nat
  ============================
  0 <= x + y + y

Coq < generalize (x + y + y).
1 subgoal

  x, y : nat
  ============================
  forall n : nat, 0 <= n

As for "circularity" of the definition, the real explanation is right below the example:

If the goal is G and t is a subterm of type T in the goal, then generalize t replaces the goal by forall x:T, G0 where G0 is obtained from G by replacing all occurrences of t by x.

Essentially, this says generalize wraps your goal in forall, replacing some term with a fresh variable (x).

Of course, generalize should be used with some thought and caution, since one can get a false statement to prove after using it:

Goal forall x y, x > 0 -> 0 < x + y + y.
  intros x y H.
  generalize dependent (x + y + y).

(* results in this proof state: *)
  x, y : nat
  H : x > 0
  ============================
   forall n : nat, 0 < n

Shit

Thanks for the answer, but I still don't understand the why is this operation called "generalize" in the first place, despite the given operational semantics. Also, the example Goal you cited seem to be false to begin with. I don't see how generalize had made anything worse here. – Broad

It's called generalize because you substitute a concrete and perhaps complex term having some inner structure with a placeholder without any inner structure of the same type. I.e. you're abstracting away some details and get a more general thing. And the last example (the goal is true, btw, try intros; omega. on it) shows that one cannot throw some concrete details away without any limits, if one wants to preserve the validity of a formula. – Shit

Thanks for the clarification. – Broad

Answer 2

From what I recall, revert is just a simpler form of generalize, which is usually easier to use for newcomers: it is the opposite of intro. Using a flavor of generalize, you can do much more (especially with dependency between terms and types).

Rage