Real numbers in Coq
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In https://www.cs.umd.edu/~rrand/vqc/Real.html#lab1 one can read:

Coq's standard library takes a very different approach to the real numbers: An axiomatic approach.

and one can find the following axiom:

Axiom
  completeness :
    ∀E:R → Prop,
      bound E → (∃x : R, E x) → { m:R | is_lub E m }.

The library is not mentioned but in Why are the real numbers axiomatized in Coq? one can find the same description :

I was wondering whether Coq defined the real numbers as Cauchy sequences or Dedekind cuts, so I checked Coq.Reals.Raxioms and... none of these two. The real numbers are axiomatized, along with their operations (as Parameters and Axioms). Why is it so?

Also, the real numbers tightly rely on the notion of subset, since one of their defining properties is that is every upper bounded subset has a least upper bound. The Axiom completeness encodes those subsets as Props."

Nevertheless, whenever I look at https://coq.inria.fr/library/Coq.Reals.Raxioms.html I do not see any axiomatic approach, in particular we have the following lemma:

Lemma completeness :
    forall E:R -> Prop,
      bound E -> (exists x : R, E x) -> { m:R | is_lub E m }.

Where can I find such an axiomatic approach of the real numbers in Coq?

Miseno answered 22/10, 2021 at 22:39 Comment(0)
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The description you mention is outdated indeed, because since I asked the question you linked, I rewrote the axioms defining Coq's standard library real numbers in a more standard way. The real numbers are now divided into 2 layers

  • constructive real numbers, that are defined in terms of Cauchy sequences and that use no axioms at all;
  • classical real numbers, that are a quotient set of constructive reals, and that do use 3 axioms to prove the least upper bound theorem that you mention.

Coq easily gives you the axioms underlying any term by the Print Assumptions command:

Require Import Raxioms.
Print Assumptions completeness.

Axioms:
ClassicalDedekindReals.sig_not_dec : forall P : Prop, {~ ~ P} + {~ P}
ClassicalDedekindReals.sig_forall_dec
  : forall P : nat -> Prop,
    (forall n : nat, {P n} + {~ P n}) -> {n : nat | ~ P n} + {forall n : nat, P n}
FunctionalExtensionality.functional_extensionality_dep
  : forall (A : Type) (B : A -> Type) (f g : forall x : A, B x),
    (forall x : A, f x = g x) -> f = g

As you can see these 3 axioms are purely logical, they do not speak about real numbers at all. They just assume a fragment of classical logic.

If you want an axiomatic definition of the reals in Coq, I provided one for the constructive reals

Require Import Coq.Reals.Abstract.ConstructiveReals.

And this becomes an interface for classical reals if you assume the 3 axioms above.

Dorita answered 23/10, 2021 at 9:6 Comment(0)
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These descriptions are outdated. It used to be the case that the type R of real numbers was axiomatized, along with its basic properties. But nowadays (since 2019?) it is defined in terms of more basic axioms, more or less like one would do in traditional mathematics.

Pinwheel answered 23/10, 2021 at 3:33 Comment(0)

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