Localize dates on a browser?

Question

Let's say I have a date that I can represent in a culture-invariant format (ISO 8601).

I'll pick July 6, 2009, 3:54 pm UTC time in Paris, a.k.a. 5:54 pm local time in Paris observing daylight savings.

2009-07-06T15:54:12.000+02:00

OK... is there any hidden gem of markup that will tell the browser to convert that string into a localized version of it?

The closest solution is using Javascript's Date.prototype.toLocaleString(). It certainly does a good job, but it can be slow to iterate over a lot of dates, and it relies on Javascript.

Is there any HTML, CSS, XSLT, or otherwise semantic markup that a browser will recognize and automatically render the correct localized string?

Edit:

The method I am currently using is replacing the text of an HTML element with a localized string:

Starting with:

<span class="date">2009/07/06 15:54:12 GMT</span>

Using Javascript (with jQuery):

var dates = $("span.date", context);
// use for loop instead of .each() for speed
for(var i=0,len=dates.length; i < len; i++) {
    // parse the date
    var d = new Date(dates.eq(i).text());
    // set the text to the localized string
    dates.eq(i).text(d.toLocaleString());
}

From a practical point of view, it makes the text "flash" to the new value when the Javascript runs, and I don't like it.

From a principles point of view, I don't get why we need to do this - the browser should be able to localize standard things like currency, dates, numbers, as long as we mark it up as such.

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A follow up question: Why do browsers/the Web not have such a simple feature - take a standard data item, and format it according to the client's settings?

Krutz

I don't know that there is anyway to do this using straight up markup languages. I'm pretty sure you're going to have use some script. – Outcry

Answer 1

I use toLocaleString() on my site, and I've never had a problem with the speed of it. How are you getting the server date into the Date object? Parsing?

I add a comment node right before I display the date as the server sees it. Inside the comment node is the date/time of that post as the number of milliseconds since epoch. In Rails, for example:

<!--<%= post.created_at.to_i * 1000 %>-->

If they have JS enabled, I use jQuery to grab those nodes, get the value of the comment, then:

var date = new Date();
date.setTime(msFromEpoch);
// output date.toLocaleString()

If they don't have JS enabled, they can feel free to do the conversion in their head.

If you're trying to parse the ISO time, that may be the cause of your slowness. Also, how many dates are we talking?

Lorenzoloresz

I'll try using the ticks instead of ISO format - I imagine it has to be faster. Dates are somewhere between 50 and 100. It's a noticeable "flash" on the screen when the dates get localized. – Krutz

Answer 2

Unfortunately, there is not.

HTML & CSS are strictly used for presentation, as such, there is no "smarts" built in to change the way things are displayed.

Your best bet would be to use a server side language (like .NET, Python, etc.) to emit the dates into the HTML in the format you want them shown to your user.

Velasco

I wish the server had a good way of knowing the client's localized settings. – Krutz

I've seen a good "trick" for doing this. On the login, or similar page, put a hidden form field and use JavaScript to write the user's current time to it. Then when the form is posted to your server compare the users system time (as per JavaScript) to the servers time and you can figure out their time zone settings. – Velasco

Answer 3

It is not possible to do this with HTML, it has no smart tags that can make any kind of decisions like this. It is strictly presentational. I do wonder, though, if HTML5 perhaps has a tag for something like this...

Anyways, the way I see it, you have 3 options:

1. Stick to the Javascript way. There's questions with more details on it on this website, such as How do I display a date/time in the user’s locale format and time offset? and How can I determine a web user’s time zone?

2. Try to use geolocation. That is, your server side script fires off a request to one of the many geolocator services out there on the user's first page visit to try and guess where the user is. The downside of this is that it will be wrong about 10% of the time, so it's not that much better than the market share Javascript is going to get you.... (all in all, then, not a very good method...)

3. Ask the user! You will see that most websites that want to display a tailored experience for you will ask you this sort of thing because it's just not possible to know. As a neat fallback, you could wrap the question around <noscript> tags so you only ask those with Javascript disabled while offering the Javascript experience to those that have it.

Nemato

Answer 4

Dojo has some pretty good localizations for dates and currencies. Using this method also allows you to pick different formats (e.g.: short date vs long date) and force locales.

Nonsmoker

Answer 5

The language and the user's locale should be sent on the HTTP header. You can use those to create the correct date format server-side to be displayed to the user. However, this is often undesirable because many users completely ignore their locale settings in their OS and/or browser. So, you may be feeding USA style timestamps to New Zealanders.

I liked the trick posted in the comment above, but it sounds like a QA headache, since you could be dealing with a large number of clients that implement timestamps in very different ways.

The most effective solution I have seen, is to simple provide a panel to allow your users to choose what time format they like. Some users even ****gasp**** like ISO formats. Then you do the time format conversion server side. If your application language does not have good locale to timezone formatting mapping, check your database. Many databases provide locale-based customized timezone formatting as well.

Wallie

Answer 6

Because this anwser still popups in google I share that this is now possible to do by using a readonly datetime-local input (see below) and you can then style the input the way you want:

<input type="datetime-local" value="2018-06-12T19:30" readonly />

For more information see: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/input/datetime-local

Desantis